After breaking 1000 comments on the previous thread, I felt it was a good time to start another.
As a reminder, here are some of the most recent outstanding questions for Kathy:
From Laurie:
You said you answered my questions, and wish more questions were asked. Here are some questions that were not addressed.
Matt 23:8 read first
Philemon 1:10
1 Corinthians 4:14-17
1 Corinthians 12:27
2 Timothy 1:11
1 Timothy 2:7
Ephesians 4:11,12Why is it that messiah says not to be called rabbi or father, but Paul it’s not obedient to this command?
Matt 10:7,8
1 Timothy 5:17,18
1 Corinthians 9:11,12Messiah says here that he had given freely, go and freely give. Again, Paul is disobedient.
Matt 18:15
Galatians 2:11-14
Messiah said that if you have a problem with your brother, you should deal with it privately. Here Paul lashes out at Peter “before them all”.
Matt 9:10-12
2 Thessalonians 3:6,7
Yahusha said in the passage above that he came to call the sinner to repentance, not the righteous. Why would Paul want to separate from those that actually need him?
From William:
the “evidences” you listed arent real evidences. And since you refuse to look at things that are counter to your current beliefs, how can you honestly speak to me about evidences?
here’s all I’ve seen you provide:
1) martyrs, even though every religion and many non-religions have them.
2) our very existence – which no one knows how that started, but even if you must land on god(s), you must go back to that book of claims to get to jesus.
3) there were miracles, but as it turns out, those dont happen today, and end up being more claims by the same men who claim they speak for god.
4) the fulfilled prophecies we’ve discussed weren’t really prophecies at all, or had to be viewed so figuratively that it’s difficult to show anything precise about them other than location (maybe) in order to claim they’re actually fulfilled.
5) 40 authors taking 1500 years to write the bible. But there’s nothing miraculous about men writing books, editing books, and being inspired to write a book or letter after reading an older book.
In addition to these, I’d like to ask something of both Kathy and Laurie (Matt or Hayden or portal001 (Ryan) can chime in as well):
The Bible defines God as being all-loving, all-merciful, fair, just, etc. It can also be read as promising an eternity in Hell for those who don’t serve him correctly. As a believer, how do you square those two statements?
“well, i’ll certainly hang on to what I’ve got…” – Not TOO tightly I trust – and no back and forth motions, god’ll get you for that! Don’t forget the story of Er and Onan!
When I was an early teen, and discovered how that thing worked, I was also reading the Bible. Before I began studying biblical history and realized that “giving of your seed unto Molech” involved sacrificing your first-born, I thought it referred to masturbation – it didn’t stop me, it just added guilt to the equation.
Why in the hell would a supreme being care what we primates do with our sexual organs? Yeah, yeah, I know – he/she/it works in mysterious ways —
BTW – Homer Simpson I could live with, but Peter Griffin?!
(You know, it’s amazing – and not bragging here – how American entertainment has allowed people in many parts of the world to share experiences. I think that brings us all a bit closer together. My good friend in Sydney, who’s no longer with us, shared a lot of British TV with me, which I feel broadened my horizons.)
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“Kathy, I just hope you’ll one day realize that there are at least 2 sides to everything.-Nate
Nate, I’m not sure why you make the assumption that I don’t realize this?? -Kathy
If I were Nate, I would answer you by saying that you may realize this, but there certainly is no evidence from the things you post that you believe it.
BTW, Nate, when is the NEW discussion going into effect? This one is taking a long time to download because of all the comments.
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This thread is now closed. If you’d like to continue the conversation, you can do so here:
https://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2014/09/16/open-conversation-part-1/
We’re moving away from the focus on Kathy and just going to an open dialog.
Take care, Kathy.
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