Dear Kathy,
Since you graciously agreed (in our recent conversation) to let me present you with some examples of the Bible’s problems, I decided to do it in this way so it would have its own comment thread. As I’ve said, when I was a Christian, one strike against the Bible was not enough to shake my faith — maybe it only seemed problematic, maybe there was an explanation we hadn’t uncovered yet, maybe the historical accounts were wrong, etc. But as the problems began to mount up, I reached a point where I could no longer deny the fact that the Bible had actual errors.
A couple of suggestions before we begin. Try to be as open-minded about this as possible. As you go through these examples, ask yourself if God would allow such problems to exist in a message that he wanted all people to accept and believe? According to the Bible, whenever God sent someone a message, whether it was Pharaoh or Gideon or Nebuchadnezzar or Paul, they had no question whom it was from. They didn’t always follow it, as we see with people like Pharaoh and Solomon, but they didn’t question the source of the message or what it stated. So why would God operate differently today? Why would he want us to be so confused about his message that we’re able to question whether or not it’s really from him?
Another thing to keep in mind is that even if you come to the conclusion that the Bible has actual problems, that doesn’t mean you have to stop believing in God. There are a number of Christians who don’t believe in inerrancy. And even if you lose faith in the Christian god, that still doesn’t mean you have to stop believing in God. A number of people, including several of our founding fathers, were deists. I have a lot of sympathy for that view and plan to do a post on it soon.
Some of the items listed here will have links that provide additional information, especially when the issue is too detailed to list here. I hope that you’ll check out those links, since some of them are quite significant points. And regardless of how this article strikes you, I hope it will help serve as a great springboard to launch you into your own research.
Some of the Problems
Creation
The creation accounts in Genesis do not match what we’ve learned through science. This isn’t shocking news, but it bears looking into. Evolution and the Big Bang Theory had nothing to do with my deconversion, but I’ve learned more about both since leaving Christianity. It’s shocking how much misinformation I had been operating under. Not to say that all Christians are that way — that was simply my experience. But the evidence for both evolution and the Big Bang are far more substantial than I had ever realized. Two good resources for learning more about these issues are the following (though I’d also recommend checking out the recent Cosmos series, as well as some of the PBS NOVA specials):
Another problem with the creation accounts is that Genesis 1 says that plants and trees were made on the 3rd day, while man was made on the 6th. But Genesis 2:5-9 says that man was created before there were any plants or trees in the land. Also, the 1st chapter says that man was created after all the animals, but the 2nd chapter implies that it was the other way around. It seems strange that such discrepancies would exist only a chapter apart, but there are a number of textual clues that suggest the first 5 books of the Bible were assembled over a long period of time from various writings written by a number of different people. Many scholars believe that Genesis 1 and 2 represent two separate versions of the creation story that were both included because the compilers didn’t know which was more accurate. Whatever the reason, there’s no question that the differences exist and are hard to explain.
10 Plagues
During the 10 plagues, God afflicts all of Egypt’s livestock with a disease (Ex 9:1-7), and it specifies that it would affect the “horses, the donkeys, the camels, the herds, and the flocks.” We’re told that all of Egypt’s livestock died. But the later plague of boils was said to affect both man and beast (verse 10 of chapter 9). Maybe it meant non-livestock animals. But Ex 11:5 says that the death of the firstborn would also affect Egypt’s cattle, and in Exodus 14, Pharaoh pursues the Israelites with horses.
Hares Chew the Cud
Leviticus 11:6 tells us that hares chew the cud. They do not. Animals that chew the cud are called ruminants. When they eat plant matter, it goes to their first stomach to soften, and then it’s regurgitated to their mouth. They spend time re-chewing it, and then it is swallowed and fully digested. Ruminants (cows, sheep, goats, etc.) are recognizable because their chewing of the cud is very obvious. Hares (rabbits) don’t chew the cud; however, their mouths do move frequently, so it’s possible to see why some people may have assumed that they do chew the cud. Of course, God would know they didn’t, and this is why the passage is problematic. You can read more about this here.
Arphaxad
In the genealogy given in Genesis 11:10-12, we see that Noah fathered Shem and Shem fathered Arphaxad. At the age of 35, Arphaxad fathered Shelah. This information is confirmed in 1 Chron 1:18. But Luke 3:35-36 tells us that Arphaxad’s son was Cainan, and he was the father of Shelah.
Where does Luke get this information? It disagrees with the Old Testament, so who should we believe? Some have suggested that Genesis and 1 Chronicles simply left out Cainan for some reason. But why would they do that? To further complicate it, how could Cainan have fit in there? Genesis tells us that Arphaxad was 35 when he fathered Shelah. Does it really seem likely that Arphaxad became a grandfather by 35, especially when you consider the extreme old ages that people lived to at that time?
Another explanation is that some copyist messed up when copying Luke and Cainan is just a mistake. But this is not much better. First of all, the error would have needed to occur early for it to be in all our copies of Luke. Secondly, are we really comfortable saying that we have the inspired word of our creator, but it got messed up by some guy who wasn’t paying close attention? To me, that doesn’t lend a lot of credence to the idea of inspiration or inerrancy.
Instead, the most likely explanation is that Luke made a mistake. This, of course, would indicate that he was not inspired.
Problems in the Book of Daniel
In Daniel 5, the writer refers to Belshazzar as the son of Nebuchadnezzar 7 different times. Yet we know from multiple contemporary sources that Belshazzar’s father was Nabonidus, who was not related to Nebuchadnezzar. The same chapter says that Darius the Mede took over Babylon, but this person does not seem to have ever existed. Daniel says that he was the son of Ahaseurus, and in mentioning this, the author of Daniel indicates that he was thinking of a later ruler — the persian emperor Darius the Great, whose son was Ahaseurus. This post in particular goes into the problems surrounding the 5th chapter, but if you’d like to learn about the problems in the rest of the book, you can access each article in the series here.
Jairus’s Daughter
In Mark 5:23, Jairus finds Jesus and says that his daughter is at the point of death. While they’re on their way to the house, some of his servants find them on the way and say that she has died and there’s no point in troubling Jesus further.
However, in Matthew 9:18, Jairus already knows that his daughter has died, but tells Jesus that if he’ll lay his hands on her, she’ll live. This may seem like a minor difference, but honestly, there’s only one scenario that could be true. Either the girl was already dead, or she wasn’t. And if Jairus already knew she was dead, then there was no point in his servants coming to tell him that (so of course, they don’t appear in Matthew’s account).
The Centurion
This is similar to the previous issue. Matthew and Luke both record a centurion who asks Jesus to heal his sick servant. Matthew 8:5-13 says that the centurion himself comes before Jesus to ask for help. Luke 7:1-10 says that the Jewish elders went on his behalf, and then he sent servants to follow up. In Luke, Jesus never speaks to, or even sees, the centurion at all.
Hight Priest
In Mark 2:23-28, Jesus talks about the occasion from the Old Testament when David ate the showbread, which Jesus said was in the days of Abiathar the high priest. However, in 1 Samuel 21:1-6, it appears that Ahimelech was the high priest. Some have tried to answer this problem by saying that Abiathar was alive during that particular episode, so Jesus’ statement is still true. But that’s obviously not the intent of the passage. After all, we would correct anyone who said that the tragedy of 9/11 occurred during the days of President Barack Obama. He may have been alive at the time, but that event did not happen while he was President.
430 Years
Galatians 3:16-17 says this:
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise.
Here, Paul says that the law came 430 years after the promises were made to Abraham. But in Exodus 12:40-41, we see:
Now the length of time the Israelite people lived in Egypt was 430 years. At the end of the 430 years, to the very day, all the LORD’s divisions left Egypt.
If the Israelites were in Egypt 430 years, then there could not have been 430 years between Abraham’s promises and the law. God made the promises to Abraham in Genesis 12:1-3, and as we read on through Genesis, we see that Abraham had no children at this time. Later, he had a son named Isaac. When Isaac was 60 years old, he had Jacob (Gen 25:24-26), and Jacob had 12 sons that produced the 12 tribes of Israel. Already, we can see that some time has passed since Abraham received the promise. Once Jacob’s sons were all grown with families of their own, they finally settled in Egypt. Jacob was 130 years old at this time (Gen 47:9), and this marks the beginning of that 430 year period that the Israelites spent in Egypt.
That means that the time between the promise to Abraham and the giving of the law was actually over 600 years. So why did Paul say 430 years? I think it’s obvious that this was a simple mistake. He remembered the 430 year figure because that’s how much time the Israelites spent in Egypt, and so he simply misspoke. It’s not a big deal… except that he’s supposed to be inspired by God.
Jesus’ Birth
There are a number of issues surrounding Jesus’ birth. First, Matthew’s and Luke’s accounts contradict one another on virtually all the details, which you can read about here. Secondly, Matthew seems to invent an episode where Herod kills all the children in Bethlehem who are 2 and under, causing Mary, Joseph, and Jesus to flee to Egypt (instead of just returning home to Nazareth, because only Luke says that they started in Nazareth). Matthew does this in order to “fulfill” some Old Testament passages that actually have nothing to do with Jesus or killing babies. You can read about Matthew’s misuse of the Old Testament here — it’s quite blatant.
The Virgin Birth is one of the most famous aspects of Jesus’ story, and it was supposedly done in fulfillment of a prophecy from Isaiah. But it turns out that Isaiah was prophesying no such thing — he was talking about an event that was happening in his own time, and Matthew (once again) just appropriated the “prophecy” for his own devices. You can read all the details here.
Another problem concerning Jesus’ birth narratives is that Matthew and Luke both offer genealogies for Jesus, but they are completely different from one another. Worse, they don’t match the genealogies listed in the Old Testament, either. And Matthew claims that there was a pattern in the number of generations between Abraham and David, between David and the Babylonian captivity, and between the Babylonian captivity and Christ. But to get this neat division, he is forced to leave out some names. In other words, that pattern didn’t happen. You can read more about that here.
The Triumphal Entry
While not as blatant as most of these other issues, when Matthew recounts Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem, he once again borrows from the Old Testament, but seems to make a mistake in his implementation. See here for more info.
Judas’ Death
Judas is well known for being the disciple that betrayed Jesus, but what’s not as well known is there are two different accounts of his death, and it’s very hard to reconcile them. According to Matthew, Judas threw his money down at the chief priests’ feet and went out and hanged himself. We’re not told where he did this. The priests then take the money, and instead of putting it back in the treasury (since it’s blood money), they buy a field to use for burying strangers. Because they bought the field with this money, it’s called the “Field of Blood.”
According to Acts, Judas bought a field with his money (we’re not told that he was remorseful), and he somehow fell down, bursting open in the middle and bleeding to death. The field was called “Field of Blood” after that because of the manner in which Judas died.
To make things more complicated, Matthew (of course) says that this happened in accordance with Jeremiah’s prophecy, but there’s nothing in Jeremiah that matches up. The closest reference comes from Zechariah, not Jeremiah.
These issues really complicate the notion of divine inspiration, and you can read more about them here.
The Crucifixion
There are several big problems with the way the gospels record the events of Jesus’ death, including the fact that different times of day are given for it, and even different days altogether. You can read more about this here.
The Resurrection
There are also a number of problems concerning the resurrection, some minor, some major. They’re too involved to get into here, but you can read all about them here and here.
The Problem of Hell
The notion of Hell is fraught with problems. It might even surprise you to learn that the Bible’s teachings on the afterlife change dramatically between the Old and New Testaments. I go into detail about Hell’s problems here, here, and here.
The Problem of Evil
Another huge problem for Christianity is the problem of evil, which I talk about here. This post also addresses the “problem of Heaven.”
The Bible’s Morality
While a number of people believe that the Christian god is the source of all morality, the Bible is actually filled with some monstrous acts that are either commanded by God, done with his consent, or carried out by him directly. I talk about some specific examples here, and I address some of the common responses to them here.
Conclusion
Kathy, there are a number of other examples that could be given, including the prophecy of Tyre that we’ve been discussing. But to me, these are some of the most significant and clear-cut problems. We could try to manufacture explanations for every one of these — some might be more believable than others. But why should we have to? If a perfect God inspired this book, why should it contain so many discrepancies? And honestly, some of these issues can’t be explained. They’re just wrong. The problems go well beyond internal contradictions and unfulfilled prophecies. There are problems of authorship, problems with the doctrines, and problems with the way the texts were written, transcribed, and compiled.
I’m sure you’ve spent your time as a Christian trying to reach those who are lost. You’ve always believed that Christianity is truth, and it’s the one thing that everyone needs. But could it be that Christianity is just as false as every other religion in the world? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t you want to leave it behind? When one is dedicated to finding truth, they have to be prepared to follow it wherever it leads. It’s not always easy or popular. It’s not even a guarantee that you’re right. All it means is that you follow the evidence where it leads to the best of your ability. If you find out that you’re wrong about something, you adjust course when the evidence dictates. If God exists, and if he’s righteous, what more could he ask for than that? I’ll close with my favorite quote:
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
— Marcus Aurelius
I also happen to think there are more accurate translations than the KJV because discoveries of older manuscripts over the past 100 years or so have shown the older manuscripts of not having certain scriptures that newer manuscripts do giving reason to believe redactors added them.
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The more accurate translations even omit the scriptures in question. Other Translations leave them but include a footnote. How many people read the footnotes ?
While I was still a believer, even my pastor didn’t realize that these scriptures had been omitted from his NLV. Quite funny .
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Sorry I meant NLT 🙂
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No one can argue with an idiot, KC – sometimes it’s better to just give them a cookie and hope they’ll go away. Since he would shrivel without attention, the best solution is to simply ignore him.
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I totally agree. I think everyone here engaged him more than they should have because most refused to believe he was as arrogant and delusional as he really is. We thought we could engage him. He is truly a legend in his own mind. 🙂
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“You said “process” and you said, “so theres no reason to think its instant and not a process””
Sigh you know what Dude after this answer I will just probably go back to ignoring you. You are just too ignorant. Yes I said process and no reason to think Instant
and so?
If its your premise that if something does not happen instantly then it can’t be a supernatural process have at it. Meanwhile The Bible is filled with those kind of events. Go figure a 6+ step supernatural process is in the first chapter of the bible. Be ignorant.
The good news though is that you should now have no problem with the parting of the Red Sea according to the Bible. Since God used a natural element of wind in a process of separating waters Its all good because that makes it a natural process according to KC
Thanks KC! 🙂
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“I also happen to think there are more accurate translations than the KJV because discoveries of older manuscripts over the past 100 years or so have shown the older manuscripts of not having certain scriptures that newer manuscripts do giving reason to believe redactors added them.”
ROFL is all i gotta say 🙂 :). You just pull things out of your armpit as suits. I am not a KJV only guy and none of my points rest solely on any one version
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Hey Arch, other than a lack of attention, the other thing that drives him nuts is when he thinks other people think he is wrong. In his mind he can’t be wrong . Can’t handle it. 🙂
I’m outta here. Nite
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Nate,
I think this is my favorite post of yours. Succinct, thoughtful, and clear, it lists many issues thoughtful people grapple with regarding the scriptures without being condescending, rude, or angry. Thank you for writing.
Kathy,
Nate’s right: take your time with this. It’s like eating an elephant, and it won’t go down easy. (I’m a former IFB preacher’s wife, I should know.)
All the best to you both,
~r
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“He is truly a legend in his own mind. :-)”
Amazing! As I read your comment, THAT was going to be my reply!
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@Arch: Great minds think alike ! 🙂
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The fact that he actually believes that Moses existed, or that over 2 million Jews were led out of Egypt and wandered in the desert for 40 years, with no record of their existence, should give all of us a measure of his intellect – or should I say, lack of it?
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I was going to say THAT next! Spoooky —
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I fault indoctrination as much as anything. Some of us are freed of indoctrination placed on us, others aren’t. It can be a dangerous situation. Jim Jones, David Koresh just to name a few. Ol Jimbo is credited with the phrase “drinking the koolaid” Most young adults wouldn’t know this because they haven’t a clue who Jim Jones was .
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“@Arch: Great minds think alike ! :-)”
You do know the rest of that don’t you?
“Fools seldom Differ” 🙂
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List of Bible verses not included in modern translations
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is a list of Bible verses in the New Testament that are present in the King James Version (KJV) but absent from some Bible translations completed after the publication of The New Testament in the Original Greek in 1881 and the later Novum Testamentum Graece (first published in 1898 and revised many times since that date). These editions of the Greek text took into account early manuscripts of the New Testament which had not been available to translators before the 19th century, notably those of the Alexandrian text-type.[1] The verses are present in the New King James Version, published in 1979, as well as the New American Standard Bible, though for most verses these translation include footnotes indicating doubts about their authenticity.
Most modern textual scholars consider these verses interpolations, or additions by later authors, but exceptions include advocates of the Byzantine or Majority Text and of the Received Text. When a verse is omitted, later ones in the same chapter retain their traditional numbering. Apart from omitted entire verses, there are other omitted words and phrases in some modern translations such as the famous Comma Johanneum.
Bart D. Ehrman believes that some of the most known of these verses were not part of the original text of the New Testament. “These scribal additions are often found in late medieval manuscripts of the New Testament, but not in the manuscripts of the earlier centuries,” he adds. “And because the King James Bible is based on later manuscripts, such verses became part of the Bible tradition in English-speaking lands.”[2] This same sentiment is expressed by Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort.
Contents [hide]
1 New International Version
1.1 Matthew 17:21
1.2 Matthew 18:11
1.3 Matthew 23:14
1.4 Mark 7:16
1.5 Mark 9:44/Mark 9:46
1.6 Mark 11:26
1.7 Mark 15:28
1.8 Mark 16:9–20
1.9 Luke 17:36
1.10 Luke 23:17
1.11 John 5:3–4
1.12 John 7:53-8:11
1.13 Acts 8:37
1.14 Acts 15:34
1.15 Acts 24:6p–7
1.16 Acts 28:29
1.17 Romans 16:24
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Oh wow WIkipedia says those verses are right to be left out…. so um – I guess I must be impressed right?
and the change on Christianity must be radical when
“”But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”
is left out of Matthew but appears in Mark 9:29
“For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.”is left out of Matthew but is in Luke 19:10
You didn’t even bother to check if some of the same passages were included in other synoptic gospels even in newer translations did you?
you are deep bro.
Now when will this have anything to do with Genesis?
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The bible has many problems and chief among them is at the beginning. It starts
Those four words are claims that are in need of proof and the god mentioned need to be demonstrated to exist and what it is before what follows can be accepted
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Speaking of plants, KC, have you noticed that the plants were produced (Gen 1:11) on the third day, but that the sun wasn’t created (1:16) until the fourth? The temperature of the earth would have been the same as Mr. Twister’s I.Q. – absolute zero!
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Nate, I’m still reading/ doing research.. interestingly, I was just recently debating the NT “contradictions”.. so I won’t need to do much research there.. but there are lots of others that I’m not as familiar with.
I can give a good foundational point / argument that covers several of your examples..
“. First, it’s important to remember that a partial report is not a false report. Just because each gospel author doesn’t report every detail of a story doesn’t mean it’s inaccurate.”
http://blogs.christianpost.com/confident-christian/do-the-gospel-resurrection-accounts-contradict-each-other-15311/
I think a common problem with unbelievers is again, a lack of objectivity. If accounts by DIFFERENT people matched perfectly, then that WOULD be a reason to question it’s truth. Witness accounts seldom match exactly. Objectivity would help to also see that if it was all fabricated, why even give 4 different accounts?? Why not just one?.. it would certainly lower the risk factor for mistakes. And that also applies to the entire Bible.. with all the dates, details, pages, words etc.. if it weren’t true, if it was all a giant lie, why so much detail? You say that the 1st 1 or 2 “contradictions” you were “ok” with.. you accepted that explanations would come.. but then there were.. ? how many? 10? 20? When you compare that to the seemingly endless details etc.. all the POSSIBILITIES for contradictions.. it’s nothing by comparison.. it’s just like the Tyre prophecy.. MOST of it isn’t disputed.. and all of that was improbable.. against the odds.. so, if a person was truly objective.. wouldn’t they consider that maybe they might be interpreting those 2 or 3 that supposedly weren’t fulfilled, incorrectly?? Again, I’m alluding to numbers.. with these examples it still seems like you’re swimming up stream.. all of the contradictions I’ve checked so far have explanations.. that I’m sure you’ve read and rejected.. so far they all make sense to me.. they are perfectly acceptable. The one about the time between the promise and the law I’m still learning about/ researching.. the numbers can work out if you try to think like they did 2000 yrs ago.. here’s a site that gives a possible explanation.. I especially like the statement at the end.. ” Ultimately, no matter how Paul did his math, the Holy Spirit approved it (2 Tim. 3:16), and makes the point that God is a God of promise (Gal. 3:18, 29). ”
http://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/40565
It’s about what is acceptable to God. (If God doesn’t want Tyre to mean “all” of Tyre (won’t be rebuilt), then it doesn’t have to mean that… unless He explicitly stated “all”… and He didn’t). Every day we make a statement about something and don’t mean “all”.. “I’m going home”.. ALL of home? Every square inch of home? You’re going to all of it? No, you’re probably going straight to bed because you’re so tired from a long days work.. like I am gonna do right now.. lol..
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@Kathy.
I think you are missing a massive point here.
The Pentateuch is fiction.
The characters, Abraham, Moses etc are fictional.
The Egyptian captivity did not happen.
The Exodus did not happen.
The receiving of the Ten Commandments did not happen
The conquest of Canaan did not happen.
It is nothing but a story.
This is fact and there is not a recognised secular archaeologist who will question this.
Neither any but the most fanatical orthodox Rabbi.
In fact, a great many Christians recognise the fictional nature of the Pentateuch.
The character, Jesus of Nazareth specifically mentions Moses and Abraham and The Mosaic Law.
Joining the dots should be fairly straightforward from this point surely?
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Well laid out challenges, Nate. As I have blogged, I realize that many former-believer atheists left their Christianity because of problems with the Bible. But though I had studied the Bible and Theology, problems-with-the-Bible was not my reason for leaving at all. My first foot out was due to seeing the foolishness behind placing soteriological value behind “believing”. I realized that we were all fools — I could not imagine a god that expected belief as a criteria. So my first step out was away from that god — the Christian god I was taught. So I then took on mysticism of sorts. The rest of the journey away from even mystical Christianity is another story, but that first step was the most important. (thus my post today on foolishness).
But after out, I saw all these Bible issues much more clearly — and all the issues. But it appears my Christianity was not as anchored in strong grip on the Bible but on God himself. When I realized that that God did not exist, my Christianity crumbled.
I am glad folks write like you do, because I do see that many Christians worship the Bible as their god and your type of challenges help them a lot. I don’t know all the exegesis pros and cons on each passage, and at times don’t care, because I am certain that whatever interpretation, there is no such god which they are purported to support. But from a scholastic viewpoint, I love watching the debates.
Nicely done.
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“I think a common problem with unbelievers is again, a lack of objectivity.” – Kathy
this is evidently a common problem with believers as well.
I’ve been on both sides of the fence. That doesn’t prove anything except that I saw something that changed my mind.
But let me ask, since you’re claiming to be objective, what makes you believe the claims of the men who wrote, assembled and translated the bible?
Would you believe any man who claimed to speak for god and who claimed that you should because they also claimed to have witnessed miracles?
what sets the bible apart?
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Sabio, very insightful comment.
I was more like nate, in that little by little issues within the text began to seem more abundant and more apparent. I had not allowed myself to even consider the logical issues with it when i was younger for fear of seeming ungrateful to god, or fear of questioning god, or the fear of being wrong if imagined heaven to be better than what it was, etc, etc.
When wrestling with the internal issues, it finally dawned on me that my faith had never been in god, but only in the claims of man. It was then, the realization that I was not questioning god, but the claims man made about god, that I found the courage to question the ethics of condemning people based on what they believed, and question the logical nature of heaven and hell and all they imply.
Now, if all of the issues within the bible could be resolved (I havent seen this done yet), i still dont think i’d rejoin the faith, because now I see so many other logical issues as well.
The first step for me was the bible itself, but i am fascinated that even though our initial steps were different, we eventually covered the same ground.
you had a great comment. I got a lot out of it.
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@ william: thank you. Yep you understood my point. The huge variety of us out there is fascinating, eh? 🙂
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