if videos of “ghosts” are good evidence for the supernatural, then video of UFO’s and Aliens are good evidences of intelligent Extra terrestrials and ancient aliens.
This actually illustrates how poor the evidence for the bible is. Most people dont even find video to be convincing for ridiculous things like aliens, bigfoot, nessy, ghosts, miracles or magic – yet we’re supposed to simply buy off on the wild claims of men, whom we dont know, and who do not provide any evidence beyond their claims?
What? William, you don’t believe that footage of Big Foot and Nessie is real?!? I’m…well, I just don’t know what to say about that. It’s all right there on camera.
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I think someone put razor blades in my cereal this morning.
Ruth, I did take your earlier comment as sarcasm. Thank you for the link about the ghost video. I’m sure this WON’T be good enough evidence for Kathy because it excludes the supernatural, but it’s good enough for the rest of us. 🙂
one video of a supposed ghost walking around gets all this media attention, but numerous dead people rising from their graves and walking around Jerusalem after jesus’ death isnt noteworthy enough for anyone other than Matthew to record… and matthew doesnt even record it until many years later?
A couple of problems with the insect theory.. 1st, you can see legs in the image.. legs that are a lot bulkier than insect legs would be in proportion to the overall size.
2nd, again, the image goes behind the transformer at the end and then reappears again.. what did the insect go behind on the lens?
Also, how do we know ghosts cast shadows? It would seem that they wouldn’t considering they can go through objects.
And would the image of an insect on the lens be white?
I find it interesting, William, that except for the Jesus myths, the more sophisticated Mankind got, via association with other cultures, the more the grandiose miracles, like sea-parting and pillars of fire, dwindled off.
oh, problems with the ghost explanation? well, the first would be the “ghost” part.
and if the ghosts can manifest enough of an appearance, then it stands to reason they’d have some type of shadow.
KC’s explanation makes the most sense, and if we;re saying that ghosts don’t need shadows and that they can walk through walls, then that’s simply making things up as you go and is all guess work and conjecture.
besides, why are you advocating ghosts anyways? Didnt the story of Lazarus and the Rich man that jesus told show that god didn’t let people come back?
what, besides the this questionable video and the word of a few superstitious people, is there that gives credit to the ghost story?
Did you even read the article? Did you watch the video linked in the article?
The “ghost” doesn’t disappear behind anything. It’s on top. And if an insect was crawling across the lens it would be distorted. I’ve watched and watched that video and I still haven’t found those legs. It looks like it could be wings fluttering. But, yeah, you’re right the bug theory has way more problems than the ghost theory. Whatever. You’re convinced it’s supernatural. Carry on.
Yeah, and as far as the ghost walking behind something, it’s just a light, whitish blur that either moves in front of or behind and bright white spot on camera…
It could merely be that white gets lost in white, and not that anything is walking behind something else.
anything known and natural makes more sense that ghosts.
I mean really? if vampires cant be caught on camera, why would ghosts – Am I right?
it was an alien bigfoot wearing predator camouflage. It’s right there on camera – try to deny it.
Ruth, your comment at the end implies a bias/ lack of objectivity. You clearly favor a “rational” explanation.
And the figure doesn’t go “over” the transformer.. it’s taller than the transformer, so you see the top portion.. but the bottom portion disappears and reappears.
And I think you’re the only one disputing what appears to be legs.
Finding Truth 
That was sarcasm just in case it wasn’t clear.
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Just fyi:
http://news.discovery.com/human/psychology/ghost-caught-on-new-mexico-police-video-likely-insect-140927.htm
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if videos of “ghosts” are good evidence for the supernatural, then video of UFO’s and Aliens are good evidences of intelligent Extra terrestrials and ancient aliens.
This actually illustrates how poor the evidence for the bible is. Most people dont even find video to be convincing for ridiculous things like aliens, bigfoot, nessy, ghosts, miracles or magic – yet we’re supposed to simply buy off on the wild claims of men, whom we dont know, and who do not provide any evidence beyond their claims?
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What? William, you don’t believe that footage of Big Foot and Nessie is real?!? I’m…well, I just don’t know what to say about that. It’s all right there on camera.
:/sarcasm
I think someone put razor blades in my cereal this morning.
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Ruth, I did take your earlier comment as sarcasm. Thank you for the link about the ghost video. I’m sure this WON’T be good enough evidence for Kathy because it excludes the supernatural, but it’s good enough for the rest of us. 🙂
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“I think someone put razor blades in my cereal this morning.”
It was the ghost from the video , demonizing you for doubting its existence ! 🙂
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one video of a supposed ghost walking around gets all this media attention, but numerous dead people rising from their graves and walking around Jerusalem after jesus’ death isnt noteworthy enough for anyone other than Matthew to record… and matthew doesnt even record it until many years later?
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“Why should we add so many assumptions when something is not readily explained? ”
Good point Dave ! I would add, “Why are many of the assumptions supernatural?”
When do we ever read a headline which says, ” Insect walks across camera lens simulating a ghost”
Supernatural “Sells”
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William , you’re confusing everyone with the facts ! LOL
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You GO, VideoBoy! Keep ’em comin’ til Nan cries “Uncle!” We’ll get that heathen yet!
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See those guys skiing down a mountain? You can bet the family jewels that none of them are me!
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Ruth,
A couple of problems with the insect theory.. 1st, you can see legs in the image.. legs that are a lot bulkier than insect legs would be in proportion to the overall size.
2nd, again, the image goes behind the transformer at the end and then reappears again.. what did the insect go behind on the lens?
Also, how do we know ghosts cast shadows? It would seem that they wouldn’t considering they can go through objects.
And would the image of an insect on the lens be white?
Too many problems with the insect explanation.
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“Too many problems with the insect explanation.” – kathy
so we can safely rule out insects and ghosts – since there’s a lot of problems with the ghost explanation…
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I find it interesting, William, that except for the Jesus myths, the more sophisticated Mankind got, via association with other cultures, the more the grandiose miracles, like sea-parting and pillars of fire, dwindled off.
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What problems with the ghost explanation William?
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agreed, and eventually whittled down to “well, if you don’t have faith, then i cant work my miracle…”
great evidence. Jesus gave this excuse not to perform miracles so that many might believe.
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oh, problems with the ghost explanation? well, the first would be the “ghost” part.
and if the ghosts can manifest enough of an appearance, then it stands to reason they’d have some type of shadow.
KC’s explanation makes the most sense, and if we;re saying that ghosts don’t need shadows and that they can walk through walls, then that’s simply making things up as you go and is all guess work and conjecture.
besides, why are you advocating ghosts anyways? Didnt the story of Lazarus and the Rich man that jesus told show that god didn’t let people come back?
what, besides the this questionable video and the word of a few superstitious people, is there that gives credit to the ghost story?
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Kathy,
Did you even read the article? Did you watch the video linked in the article?
The “ghost” doesn’t disappear behind anything. It’s on top. And if an insect was crawling across the lens it would be distorted. I’ve watched and watched that video and I still haven’t found those legs. It looks like it could be wings fluttering. But, yeah, you’re right the bug theory has way more problems than the ghost theory. Whatever. You’re convinced it’s supernatural. Carry on.
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Yeah, and as far as the ghost walking behind something, it’s just a light, whitish blur that either moves in front of or behind and bright white spot on camera…
It could merely be that white gets lost in white, and not that anything is walking behind something else.
anything known and natural makes more sense that ghosts.
I mean really? if vampires cant be caught on camera, why would ghosts – Am I right?
it was an alien bigfoot wearing predator camouflage. It’s right there on camera – try to deny it.
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Ruth, your comment at the end implies a bias/ lack of objectivity. You clearly favor a “rational” explanation.
And the figure doesn’t go “over” the transformer.. it’s taller than the transformer, so you see the top portion.. but the bottom portion disappears and reappears.
And I think you’re the only one disputing what appears to be legs.
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ruth favors a rational explanation.
Kathy favors an irrational explanation.
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You clearly favor a “rational” explanation.
Hahahaha! As if that’s a bad thing. Yes, I am biased toward a rational explanation rather than the irrational ghost one.
You didn’t answer my question. Did you read the Discovery article? Did you watch the video?
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And I’m serious. That really did make me laugh. I’m still laughing.
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it COULD be a ghost, but then it COULD be a lot of other things that are both rational and far more plausible.
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Because of the distortion the image is a bit opaque, which means if it walks on top of something light colored you’re not going to be able to see it.
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