928 thoughts on “Open Conversation Part 3”

  1. “The world is starting to feel rather medieval.”

    Gliese, this past week in North Carolina and Ohio, the religious right got the Supreme Court to side with them (voting discrimination) just hours before early voting days went into effect. (Point #14)

    This past month, in Colorado, the religious, conservative Jefferson County School Board introduced a curricula depicting American heritage only in a positive light — restricting history education to subject matter that “promotes patriotism”. (Point #1)

    We’ve got the religious conservatives all up in arms about homosexuality and against equal pay for women, and ownership of their own bodies. (Point #1 & 5)

    Five religious, conservative Supreme Court justices sided with religious corporations affecting women’s well being and their families. (Point #8 & 9)

    America has the highest incarceration rate in the world and continues to build more prisons even though crime has decreased over the last two decades. (Point #12)

    On June 30th, the conservative Supreme Court issued a ruling against organized labor unions. (Point #10)

    Members of the economic elite are being pampered by the political elite. (Point #9)

    The religious conservatives continue to dismantle the social safety net. (Point #2)

    I stay abreast of the news everyday — news that rarely makes the MSM (Point #6 & 13). Every point mentioned in this link, data provided by political scientist Lawrence Britt, is taking place in America and has since the Patriot Act was enacted. (Point #3 & 7).

    Yes, these are the “Good News People” I’m highlighting here.

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  2. Members of the economic elite are being pampered by the political elite.” – whose campaign funding is provided by the economic elite. And so it goes.

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  3. “Sorry, Neuro – meant Zoe – must be my gibberish, now GET OFF MY LAWN! –”

    Since “Stand Your Ground” laws are enacted in your neck of the woods, I will slowly back away. Please don’t shoot. I was just admiring your recently mowed lawn. Geesh.

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  4. Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that the “Good News People”, y’know the ones with all the Good News, are the ones screaming that the sky is falling?

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  5. Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that the “Good News People”, y’know the ones with all the Good News, are the ones screaming that the sky is falling? – no, because THEIR’S is; ours is clearing up nicely.

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  6. The conservative party is big on national defense and magnifies our perception of threat” – the real question is, how much of that is real, and how much a manipulation technique? Playing to the fear often results in big defense contracts to wealthy fatcats, who support the Party that generates it. Have we forgotten how many otherwise rational people – including our current President – voted to attack Iraq, on the fear that a lie was true?

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  7. ..ours is clearing up nicely.

    Oh, I agree. It’s just that they proclaim they have this good news and then proceed to tell everyone how terrible everything is… 😕

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  8. the real question is, how much of that is real, and how much a manipulation technique? Playing to the fear often results in big defense contracts to wealthy fatcats, who support the Party that generates it. Have we forgotten how many otherwise rational people – including our current President – voted to attack Iraq, on the fear that a lie was true?”

    Point #8:

    Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

    Point #9

    Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

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  9. Oh, I agree. It’s just that they proclaim they have this good news and then proceed to tell everyone how terrible everything is…

    The “good news” is that you can escape this awful world and go somewhere better. These folks dwell on bad news and then pray “come quickly lord jesus!” Oh well. I prefer to enjoy what we’ve got and not pretend that we are going to live forever in a paradise. What was it called again? Oh yeah… being realistic.

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  10. the real question is, how much of that is real, and how much a manipulation technique?

    I have a “friend” on FB who is somewhat into conspiracy theories and I have to admit, some of the stuff he’s posted has me thinking twice about what the news media has fed to the American people. Anyone want to point out who owns these reporting agencies?

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  11. Nan, your comment reminds me of that film Wag the Dog. I was having a conversation with my brother-in-law the other day in which I expressed a distrust of our news media. I don’t think we ever get the whole story and certainly not in anything resembling unbiased.

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  12. “The conservative party is big on national defense and magnifies our perception of threat, whether of foreign aggressors, immigrants, terrorists, or invading ideologies like Communism. To a conservative, the world really is a frightening place.”

    ““The conservative party is big on national defense and magnifies our perception of threat” – the real question is, how much of that is real, and how much a manipulation technique? Playing to the fear often results in big defense contracts to wealthy fatcats, who support the Party that generates it. Have we forgotten how many otherwise rational people – including our current President – voted to attack Iraq, on the fear that a lie was true?”

    Of course.. because the “logic” here is that it’s much “smarter” to take a chance on losing our freedoms instead of misspending money.

    more “logic”… because people are making money.. that “MUST” be the reason for going to war.

    I wonder how many liberals whined about those warning about Hitler. Or the many other communist mass murderers and the poverty that came with them. Or those warning about the growing sharia supporting muslim population in France, GB and other European countries.
    You all don’t get it.. and that’s why you are liberals.

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