“I have a “friend” on FB who is somewhat into conspiracy theories and I have to admit, some of the stuff he’s posted has me thinking twice about what the news media has fed to the American people. Anyone want to point out who owns these reporting agencies?”
The media is overwhelmingly liberal. The bias has made news reporting a joke in this country.. and around the world ftm.
“You all don’t get it.. and that’s why you are liberals.”
Kathy, I’m not a liberal. I support gun ownership, I oppose abortion, I am okay with spending money on our military, I oppose common core, I agreed with you on the human population issue and this November I’ll be voting for a republican governor to replace the democratic incumbent in NY.
None of these issues have anything to do with the original purpose of the threads directed to you. Everyone here has brought up reasons by which we have concluded that the Bible is a man-made collection of writings. We also tried discussing evidence for macro evolution with you which you did not reply to. This leads me to think there may be some truth to Paul’s claims that you really are just “messing with us”. Are you sincere about searching for truth or is this just a game to you?
Dave, I hope it goes without saying that one doesn’t have to be a libertarian or conservative to support gun ownership, personally oppose abortion, or support defense.
I do believer, however, that Kathy is playing games — trolling.
Well, she’s doing an awful job of defending her religion. Even as an ex-Christian I’m offended. I mean I was once a believer… but I was never like her.
I think it makes kathy’s world easier to live in when you lump huge groups into two categories:
1) extreme bible believers and conservatives.
2) bible doubter, disbelievers and liberals.
I suspect some of this comes from trying to reconcile how a merciful and loving god would condemn so many to eternal torture. I suspect that in order to make that notion of god hold up with the severity of the punishment, that she is forcing herself to believe that all who do not see the bible as she does, is doing so out of rebellion and pride – essentially saying to herself that people who go to hell, go there with their eyes wide open, spitting in the face of their benevolent creator.
while it may seem to simplify things on the surface, that outlook is really just idiotic and insane – not to mention the fact that espousing such nonsense only guarantees that no one will be swayed by such commentary and only serves to distance yourself from others.
troll, stupid, ignorant, mentally handicapped – whatever the root cause, i feel sorry for her in many ways.
Even with comments like this, she’ll only hold firmer to her position, justifying with, “the Lord said we’d be persecuted and hated for his sake…” She wont realize that she’s being “persecuted” because she’s and a pompously annoying ass, not because she’s so righteous.
Fox news has the largest viewing base in the nation. It is the biggest mainstream media outlet there is – it is not liberal. It is very, very “conservative” and the only thing “fair and balances” about it is when they toss the phrase around.
I’m sure kathy watches the biggest mainstream media outlet and takes it as gospel, just behind the gospels.
Couldn’t agree more, Dave. I was once a devout Christian. She is, in my opinion, one of the worst representations of Christianity. I do know a lot of sincere, caring Christians. I may not agree with their belief that Jesus was a deity or his daddy, but I respect their desire to use the positive aspects of Christianity as a tool to help them become a more compassionate human beings, if that’s necessary. I think Ryan is one of them. But religion should be personal. I don’t want people like Kathy shoving their bigotry and antisocial crap down my throat.
“Or the many other communist mass murderers and the poverty that came with them.” – first of all, you ditz, it is not the job of US citizens to give up the lives of their sons and daughters to go after every mass murderer in the world. How many innocent Iraqis died in our pursuit of a lie that managed to take out 1 – count ’em – 1 mass murderer?
Korea, Viet Nam and Iraq were all wars that didn’t need to be fought. Arms manufacturers made billions. There is so much, about which you know so little, it boggles the mind!
Dave, I hope it goes without saying that one doesn’t have to be a libertarian or conservative to support gun ownership, personally oppose abortion, or support defense.
The truth is we all have unique views on a myriad of different topics. We are individuals and deserve to be treated as such.
whatever the root cause, i feel sorry for her in many ways.
I feel sorry for her too William. It doesn’t have to be this way. She could respond to the points rather than sniping at the dialogue. She could make friends here, disagreeing on historical points but agreeing to be courteous.
the Lord said we’d be persecuted and hated for his sake…” She wont realize that she’s being “persecuted” because she’s and a pompously annoying ass, not because she’s so righteous.”
William, if she’s a troll, she probably won’t think that. If she isn’t, she most likely relishes in what she thinks is persecution.
“Fox news has the largest viewing base in the nation. It is the biggest mainstream media outlet there is – it is not liberal. It is very, very “conservative” and the only thing “fair and balances” about it is when they toss the phrase around.”
This proves my point.. WHY is Fox the most watched News network?? Because slowly but surely, people (who are objective) realize that if they want unbiased news, that’s the only place there is to go.
And because they give the OTHER side of the liberal “news”.. liberals attack them every chance they get.
I guess you haven’t noticed the Kathy posts? Where I defend Christianity with much success?
The points you’ve brought up, I’ve already addressed. If you have some new points, I’ll gladly address them.. and even some old ones if your points are valid.
“WHY is Fox the most watched News network?? Because slowly but surely, people (who are objective) realize that if they want unbiased news, that’s the only place there is to go.
And because they give the OTHER side of the liberal “news”.. liberals attack them every chance they get.” – kathy
you’re funny.
“I guess you haven’t noticed the Kathy posts? Where I defend Christianity with much success?
The points you’ve brought up, I’ve already addressed. If you have some new points, I’ll gladly address them.. and even some old ones if your points are valid.” – kathy
this proves that you’re either delusional or trolling – either way you are very entertaining.
“This proves my point.. WHY is Fox the most watched News network??”)
Studies show that at least 75% of people follow other people’s opinion even when evidence is staring them in the face. It’s called cerebral automatism.
Read the Solomon Asch experiments. You fit the typical follower. Read the studies from the University of Leeds where scientist found that 95% of people followed without their conscience awareness. The scientists said that people follow like sheep. ➡ You
“Dave, I hope it goes without saying that one doesn’t have to be a libertarian or conservative to support gun ownership, personally oppose abortion, or support defense.
I do believer, however, that Kathy is playing games — trolling.”
“trolling”.. because I don’t agree with your views.. yep, that certainly *is* the liberal definition.
“..personally appose abortion”… while thousands of innocent babies are killed every day, which you support.
And liberal support of defense means when they’re on your doorstep I’m sure.. when the cost of lives and money is much greater.
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“I have a “friend” on FB who is somewhat into conspiracy theories and I have to admit, some of the stuff he’s posted has me thinking twice about what the news media has fed to the American people. Anyone want to point out who owns these reporting agencies?”
The media is overwhelmingly liberal. The bias has made news reporting a joke in this country.. and around the world ftm.
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“You all don’t get it.. and that’s why you are liberals.”
Kathy, I’m not a liberal. I support gun ownership, I oppose abortion, I am okay with spending money on our military, I oppose common core, I agreed with you on the human population issue and this November I’ll be voting for a republican governor to replace the democratic incumbent in NY.
None of these issues have anything to do with the original purpose of the threads directed to you. Everyone here has brought up reasons by which we have concluded that the Bible is a man-made collection of writings. We also tried discussing evidence for macro evolution with you which you did not reply to. This leads me to think there may be some truth to Paul’s claims that you really are just “messing with us”. Are you sincere about searching for truth or is this just a game to you?
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Dave, just for your information I’ll pass along what the rest of us have learned in the last 5000 comments (all the threads’ worth) –
– Explanations fall on her deaf ears
– Reasonable explanations are futile
– Words do not mean what she thinks they mean
– Keep talking, however, as many people are reading Nate’s blog and they might actually THINK
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Dave, I hope it goes without saying that one doesn’t have to be a libertarian or conservative to support gun ownership, personally oppose abortion, or support defense.
I do believer, however, that Kathy is playing games — trolling.
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Well, she’s doing an awful job of defending her religion. Even as an ex-Christian I’m offended. I mean I was once a believer… but I was never like her.
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I think it makes kathy’s world easier to live in when you lump huge groups into two categories:
1) extreme bible believers and conservatives.
2) bible doubter, disbelievers and liberals.
I suspect some of this comes from trying to reconcile how a merciful and loving god would condemn so many to eternal torture. I suspect that in order to make that notion of god hold up with the severity of the punishment, that she is forcing herself to believe that all who do not see the bible as she does, is doing so out of rebellion and pride – essentially saying to herself that people who go to hell, go there with their eyes wide open, spitting in the face of their benevolent creator.
while it may seem to simplify things on the surface, that outlook is really just idiotic and insane – not to mention the fact that espousing such nonsense only guarantees that no one will be swayed by such commentary and only serves to distance yourself from others.
troll, stupid, ignorant, mentally handicapped – whatever the root cause, i feel sorry for her in many ways.
Even with comments like this, she’ll only hold firmer to her position, justifying with, “the Lord said we’d be persecuted and hated for his sake…” She wont realize that she’s being “persecuted” because she’s and a pompously annoying ass, not because she’s so righteous.
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oh, and to kathy’s comment on liberal media…
Fox news has the largest viewing base in the nation. It is the biggest mainstream media outlet there is – it is not liberal. It is very, very “conservative” and the only thing “fair and balances” about it is when they toss the phrase around.
I’m sure kathy watches the biggest mainstream media outlet and takes it as gospel, just behind the gospels.
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Couldn’t agree more, Dave. I was once a devout Christian. She is, in my opinion, one of the worst representations of Christianity. I do know a lot of sincere, caring Christians. I may not agree with their belief that Jesus was a deity or his daddy, but I respect their desire to use the positive aspects of Christianity as a tool to help them become a more compassionate human beings, if that’s necessary. I think Ryan is one of them. But religion should be personal. I don’t want people like Kathy shoving their bigotry and antisocial crap down my throat.
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“Or the many other communist mass murderers and the poverty that came with them.” – first of all, you ditz, it is not the job of US citizens to give up the lives of their sons and daughters to go after every mass murderer in the world. How many innocent Iraqis died in our pursuit of a lie that managed to take out 1 – count ’em – 1 mass murderer?
Korea, Viet Nam and Iraq were all wars that didn’t need to be fought. Arms manufacturers made billions. There is so much, about which you know so little, it boggles the mind!
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The truth is we all have unique views on a myriad of different topics. We are individuals and deserve to be treated as such.
I feel sorry for her too William. It doesn’t have to be this way. She could respond to the points rather than sniping at the dialogue. She could make friends here, disagreeing on historical points but agreeing to be courteous.
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the Lord said we’d be persecuted and hated for his sake…” She wont realize that she’s being “persecuted” because she’s and a pompously annoying ass, not because she’s so righteous.”
William, if she’s a troll, she probably won’t think that. If she isn’t, she most likely relishes in what she thinks is persecution.
http://awaypoint.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/why-right-wing-christians-think-they-are-americas-most-persecuted/
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“Fox news has the largest viewing base in the nation. It is the biggest mainstream media outlet there is – it is not liberal. It is very, very “conservative” and the only thing “fair and balances” about it is when they toss the phrase around.”
This proves my point.. WHY is Fox the most watched News network?? Because slowly but surely, people (who are objective) realize that if they want unbiased news, that’s the only place there is to go.
And because they give the OTHER side of the liberal “news”.. liberals attack them every chance they get.
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Dave,
I guess you haven’t noticed the Kathy posts? Where I defend Christianity with much success?
The points you’ve brought up, I’ve already addressed. If you have some new points, I’ll gladly address them.. and even some old ones if your points are valid.
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I actually laughed out loud at that statement “. .. Fox. .. Unbiased news. .. ”
Then I read the next comment about Kathy thinking she’s defending christianity with much success.
Have we talked about delusions on this thread yet???
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“This proves my point.. ” – kathy
Oh?
“WHY is Fox the most watched News network?? Because slowly but surely, people (who are objective) realize that if they want unbiased news, that’s the only place there is to go.
And because they give the OTHER side of the liberal “news”.. liberals attack them every chance they get.” – kathy
you’re funny.
“I guess you haven’t noticed the Kathy posts? Where I defend Christianity with much success?
The points you’ve brought up, I’ve already addressed. If you have some new points, I’ll gladly address them.. and even some old ones if your points are valid.” – kathy
this proves that you’re either delusional or trolling – either way you are very entertaining.
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William, I think we cross-posted. . . 🙂
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“This proves my point.. WHY is Fox the most watched News network??”)
Studies show that at least 75% of people follow other people’s opinion even when evidence is staring them in the face. It’s called cerebral automatism.
Read the Solomon Asch experiments. You fit the typical follower. Read the studies from the University of Leeds where scientist found that 95% of people followed without their conscience awareness. The scientists said that people follow like sheep. ➡ You
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“Dave, I hope it goes without saying that one doesn’t have to be a libertarian or conservative to support gun ownership, personally oppose abortion, or support defense.
I do believer, however, that Kathy is playing games — trolling.”
“trolling”.. because I don’t agree with your views.. yep, that certainly *is* the liberal definition.
“..personally appose abortion”… while thousands of innocent babies are killed every day, which you support.
And liberal support of defense means when they’re on your doorstep I’m sure.. when the cost of lives and money is much greater.
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yep, great minds, i guess.
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“..personally appose abortion”… while thousands of innocent babies are killed every day, which you support. – kathy
what are you talking about?
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“And liberal support of defense means when they’re on your doorstep I’m sure.. when the cost of lives and money is much greater.” – kathy
I’m still confused as to how you’re using “liberal.”
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FYI-
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Not that I’m calling anyone in particular a troll.
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William – ‘great minds think alike’ or ‘liberals seldom differ’?? (*snicker*)
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