I was recently told that an excellent example of prophecy fulfillment in the Bible is the prophecy that the nation of Israel would be restored, as recorded in Ezekiel 4. If true, that would be a huge boost to the Bible’s credibility, so let’s dig in and see how it fares.
In Ezek 4:4-6, God tells Ezekiel to do the following:
4 “Lie also on your left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it. According to the number of the days that you lie on it, you shall bear their iniquity. 5 For I have laid on you the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days; so you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. 6 And when you have completed them, lie again on your right side; then you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days. I have laid on you a day for each year.”
A little context is probably in order. Ezekiel lived during the time that the nation of Judah was taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. Much of his writings talk about the captivity that the Jews are under, and in this passage, he prophesies about when they’ll return from captivity. As the end of verse 6 says, each of these days represents one year.
The Case For This Being a True Prophecy
The person who pointed me to this prophecy gave this link as a good explanation of how this prophecy works, so I’ll be referring to its points throughout this post.
First, we take these two periods and add them together: 390 years for Israel + 40 years for Judah = 430 years.
Next, Babylon took Judah captive in 606 BCE for exactly 70 years leaving 360 years left to go. But how do we explain this leftover 360 years?
Well, it turns out that Leviticus 26 lays out all these conditions on the Israelites. There, God tells them that as long as they serve him faithfully, he’ll bless them. But if they don’t serve him faithfully, then he’ll punish them “7 fold” or “7 times” for their sins (Lev 26:18-33). So if we take those remaining 360 years and multiply them by 7, we get 2,520 years.
But we’re not done yet. We must remember that the Jews used a calendar based on both lunar and solar years. They had 12 30-day months and would occasionally add in leap-months as needed to keep the seasons lining up correctly. So to understand what Ezekiel meant by “year,” we need to convert these 2,520 years into days, which comes out to 2,520 x 360 = 907,200 days.
Now to find out how many actual years this represents, we need to convert back to the standard 365.25 day/year calendar that we use today. This comes out to 907,200 / 365.25 = 2,483.78 years.
We can finally connect all the dots:
606 BCE – 70 years = 536 BCE
-536 (since it’s BCE) + 2,483 + 1 (since there’s no year 0) = 1948 CE
And 1948 is the year that Israel was again made a nation! Furthermore, Jerusalem fell to Nebuchadnezzar in 587 BCE, 19 years after he took Judah. And Jerusalem was restored to Israel in 1967 CE — exactly 19 years after they reclaimed the nation of Israel! So the numbers work out for Jerusalem as well!
So that’s the case for the prophecy being legit. But are there reasons to be skeptical?
The Case Against This Being a True Prophecy
There are actually a number of problems with what I laid out above, and those familiar with the Old Testament may have already seen them.
First of all, why should the years in Ezekiel’s prophecy be added together at all? Ezekiel says there will be 390 years for Israel and 40 years for Judah — it’s no accident that he separated them. According to Jewish tradition, all 12 tribes of Israel were united when they took the land of Canaan. They remained united through all 15 judges and through kings Saul, David, and Solomon. But after Solomon died, the nation split into two kingdoms: the nation of Israel, consisting of the northern 10 tribes, and the nation of Judah, consisting of the southern 2 tribes. So far, the archaeological evidence leans away from this story. It appears that Israel and Judah were never united into one large kingdom, but that’s outside the scope of this article, so we’ll leave it at that for now.
Israel was taken into captivity by the Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. Many passages in later parts of the OT predict those lost tribes being restored, and it seems that this is what Ezekiel is referring to in this passage. That’s why they’re given a different period of time than Judah is — they were taken captive almost 150 years before Judah was. So it does not make sense to add these years together as though they refer to one specific thing. Israel and Judah were being dealt with separately here.
Secondly, the starting date of 606 BCE for Judah’s captivity isn’t accurate. In 606 BCE, Judah was its own kingdom, though it was a vassal state to Egypt and had been for 2 or 3 years. Egypt and Babylon were butting heads in the region during this time. Nebuchadnezzar came to the throne in 605 BCE, and he defeated Egypt at Carchemish that same year. That’s when Judah changed allegiance from Egypt to Babylon, as it was suddenly clear that they were now the most powerful force in the region. But it wouldn’t be appropriate to say they were under captivity at that time. They were still a separate kingdom that paid homage to Babylon. If we were to make the case that such a scenario equaled captivity, then Judah’s captivity would actually have begun in 609 or 608 BCE under Egypt.
In 601 BCE, Nebuchadnezzar tried to invade Egypt, but his forces were driven back, which caused several of the kingdoms in the Levant to rebel against him. Judah was one of them. In 599 BCE, Babylon besieged Jerusalem, and the city fell in 597 BCE. But at this point, Judah still retained its status as a vassal kingdom, and Nebuchadnezzar appointed Zedekiah as king. But several years later, Zedekiah revolted, aligning the kingdom with Egypt once again. This time, when Nebuchadnezzar took the city, he practically leveled it, and much of the population was taken off into captivity. This was in 587 BCE.
Considering this information, the most likely candidate to mark the beginning of Judah’s captivity is 587 BCE. Even if you try to push it back further, it’s hard to make a case for any time before 597 BCE, and this causes problems for the math that was laid out above.
One of the problems has to do with the 70 years of Babylonian captivity that was talked about above. When you were reading the above arguments, it may have struck you as odd that 70 years got subtracted for Judah’s captivity to Babylon, when Ezekiel said 40 years. The reason 70 was brought up is because of Jeremiah 29:10, where Jeremiah prophesies that Judah would be in captivity for 70 years. But that’s not what happened.
When the Persian Empire overthrew Babylon in 539 BCE, they allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem that same year (Ezra 1:1). The numbers differ depending on when you count Judah’s captivity as beginning, but this makes Judah’s captivity as few as 48 years (the more likely figure) or as many as 66 years. This again causes problems for all the equations that were used above.
There’s also the issue of multiplying the years by 7. There’s some discussion about whether the passage in Leviticus means that punishments would be multiplied by 7 years, or whether it would mean 7 separate punishments (like 7 additional plagues, etc). There’s also the issue that this kind of language is often taken to be more symbolic than literal. Furthermore, if this is how God was going to mete out the punishment, perhaps that’s already been calculated into the numbers he gives Ezekiel. Again, the passage has God say “a day for each year,” and there’s no indication that it should mean anything else. But I view those as side points.
The main problem I have is why does the multiplication of 7 only apply to 360 of the years? Why wouldn’t it have applied to all of them? So if we add the years together, and multiply by 7, we would have 3,010 years, not 2,520. Even if we continue to use 360-day years, that calculation comes out to 2,966.74 years, which puts us around the year 2431 CE. Of course, that isn’t helpful to those who want this prophecy to be true.
There’s another issue that should be mentioned as well. It turns out that the Septuagint doesn’t use the same figures as the Masoretic text. The Septuagint records Ezekiel 4:4-6 like this:
And thou shalt lie upon thy left side, and lay the iniquities of the house of Israel upon it, according to the number of the hundred and fifty days during which thou shalt lie upon it: and thou shalt bear their iniquities. 5 For I have appointed thee their iniquities for a number of days, for a hundred and ninety days: so thou shalt bear the iniquities of the house of Israel. 6 And thou shalt accomplish this, and then shalt lie on thy right side, and shalt bear the iniquities of the house of Juda forty days: I have appointed thee a day for a year.
It’s hard to say if 390 is the correct number, or if 150 is. Some people think that 150 is original, but that later scribes changed it once that amount of time had passed. But who knows? Unfortunately, there’s not a way to know which number is original to the text, which makes it very hard to base predictions upon.
Finally, the last piece of this that should be questioned is using a 360-day calendar. The Hebrew calendar was based on both the cycle of the moon as well as the solar year. Therefore, it is said that their calendar consisted of 12 30-day months, and every couple of years they would add a 13th month to keep the years aligned correctly with the seasons. But this isn’t exactly right. A lunar month follows the phases of the moon, which does not work out to 30 days exactly. Instead, it will alternate between 29 and 30-day months, meaning that the Hebrew calendar year came out to 354-355 days (or 385 days on leap years). This calls into question using a 360-day calendar to recalibrate the years in Ezekiel’s prophecy.
Furthermore, the Jews still understood that a year consists of 4 seasons (which is why they used intercalary years), so it seems bizarre to redefine “year” every time it’s used in prophecies. And it’s easy to see how big a 5.25 day variance can be. In the example at the beginning of this post, it took us from 2,520 years to 2,483.78 years. Daniel 12 and the Book of Revelation are the only places in the Bible I’m aware of that use a 360-day average in reference to a year. But I think it’s hard to argue that those references mean every time “year” is used in a prophecy it should be recalculated using 360-day years. Most calendars in the ancient world did not operate that way, and 360 days per year was a good generic estimate when referring to how many days are in a year at that time. Just as today we refer to a year as 365 days, when we realize that an extra day is needed every 4 years. That doesn’t mean when someone says something will happen in 20 years we have to recompute it to 19.98 years — we know they mean 20, regardless of how the leap years fall. I’m sure there are some Christians who would argue vociferously over the need to use 360-day “prophetic” years, but they have to. Without them, too much fails.
Conclusion
This was a really long post, and we’ve covered a lot of ground. I certainly can’t speak for everyone, but I personally do not find this prophecy to be a good example of a real prophecy. When taken at face value, Ezekiel talks about 390 years for Israel and 40 years for Judah. Neither of those figures work out correctly. Since they don’t, many different explanations have been sought after to make this prophecy point to something significant. The beginning of this post laid out one of those arguments, and on the surface, it seems pretty impressive. It gets us to the years 1948 and 1967 which are definitely important to the nation of Israel. But to get there, we’re making several sacrifices, like what year Judah went into captivity, adding the years together, multiplying some of them by 7, and converting the years to a 360-day format that almost certainly wasn’t the intent. And there’s still the issue of whether or not that translation is even accurate.
To me, this prophecy is simply too vague to be of any use. And the method used to create a connection to modern-day Israel is too problematic to be anything but evidence against prophecy-fulfillment, in my opinion.
Resources used in this article:
http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/mathprophecy2.html
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/JFTProphecyEzekiel4.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezekiel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28587_BC%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II_of_Babylon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunisolar_calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_month
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophetic_Year
Finding Truth 
I’m going to make this as clear as possible.
The mathematical formulas required to make these dates work out have every appearance of being manipulations made after the fact. It’s hard to believe God would have to resort to such gymnastics in order to “fulfill” a prophecy. He’s “not the author of confusion” after all…
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It’s also interesting to note that a number of Christians don’t even agree that this passage is a prophecy at all, but is referring to things in Israel’s and Judah’s pasts.
So very clear…
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god requires 3 things from all of his disciples:
1) the willingness to believe in a book of claims written, packaged and delivered by men, while also willing to say “we aught to obey god rather than man.”
2) and advanced degree in theoretical calculus in order to make any obscure prophecy “work out”
3) mike, in order to shepherd every would be believer into the correct understanding of #1 and #2.
The plan of salvation.
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“I’m going to make this as clear as possible.”
Great lets see if you did any better
“Cyrus gave his decree in his 1st year, which was 539 BCE. Even if we give an extra year, just in case, that puts us at 68 years, not 70.”
Sorry Nate. you depend too much on Till for everything. Multiple sources state 538 – even your beloved Wikipedia states that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/538_BC
So if you give it an exta year thats 537 and 69 years which is 70 360 day years
Now let me be clear with more precision
360 days x 70 years = 25,200 days.
=68.99 years in our calendar
I’ll round it to 69 years
and that carries to 537 bc from 606 bc. From there there are 907,200 days
How? 360 years of 360 days times 7
converted to our calendar = 1947.77
1947.77 problem? not 1948? Nope that date would be accurate only for events that start off on the first day of the year. Summer time would add at least another .5 to the above and thats…. you got it 1948
Ez peazy. Simple as apple pie. Of course no one knows days and months for sure but any date within a year of 1948 would be accurate.
“There’s nothing that says 70 years will be subtracted, or anything like that. Daniel changes the meaning of Jeremiah’s prophecy completely.”
No he doesn’t thats just your desperate begging. the 70 years is the same in jeremiah and in Daniel. Thers just another calculation mutiplied by seven that is taken from that 70.
“So your claim that 70 years should be subtracted from this prophecy has no basis.”
The fact that you don’t know Hebrew or don’t even try to consult the original langauges always comes up and bites you in the rear Nate. the word “determined” literally means – to cut off. So the 70 years are cut off from the rest of time. If you don’t understand something then ask.
“Your reasoning for claiming that Ezekiel was talking about 360-day years is very weak, considering you borrow it from Daniel and Revelation,”
Rhetoric is always cleary rhetoric. Its a calendar both used in the Bible and in Babylon where the captivity took place . This is a fact that you can do nothing about. Moo some more the cows are not home yet.
“even worse, if you were right about the 360-day thing, that recalibrating what Ezekiel means by “year” should have been the first thing you did. But of course, if you do it that way, you don’t get to 1948 or 1967.”
even worse – after having it explained to you you still don’t get that the 360 day multiplication is to get the days so that you can convert it to our calendar. Conversion is required ONLY when we are converting to our calendar NOT before. Sheesh how can you have studied this and be trying to float this nonsense again.
“Multiplying by 7 is borrowed from Leviticus, but for all you know, God had already accounted for that when he gave Ezekiel these specific years.”
Desperation has set in eh nate? “for all you know”? Its in the text that those are the years of their sin. Its not multiplied in Ezek and I suspect you know that too. Zeke does not call for the multiplication of 7 . Thats a requirement of the law.
‘And once again, you don’t multiply the first 70 years by 7 because that also messes up your calculation. Nor do you tread the 390 and 40 periods separately, since that messes you up too.”
Give up that tired silly claim Nate. Till sold you that fudge but the text says after lying on one side Zeke lies on the other side. They are consective 390 and then 40. So Zeke says the days last 430 – every day for a year means 430 years. Sorry nate. Epic fail. Congratulations you have just proven skeptics can do a mean chocolate fudge like what they accuse Christians of. Don’t feel too bad. Till has fooled a lot of people unfortunately straight into hell (and yes they all have had their own culpability)
“Finally, there are 19 years between 606 BCE and 587 BCE. There are also 19 years between 1948 and 1967. That’s the only reason your numbers are able to hit both dates. If there’s anything significant about any of this it’s that those two dates happen to have 19 years between them. But before we go reading too much into that, we have to remember that 606 BCE is a very suspect date in the first place.”
Sorry Nate I can see how hard you are trying to fudge it but the date of jerusalem’s destruction is not dependent on the 606 Bc date. The data is independently verifiable. so that whole argument is flat. Go do some more research
“The mathematical formulas required to make these dates work out have every appearance of being manipulations made after the fact.”
Your dodging from dealing with the whole thing, including 1967, along with your insistence against the text that the years are not consecutive have every appearance of fudging to get out of the fact that they do work.
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“It’s also interesting to note that a number of Christians don’t even agree that this passage is a prophecy at all, but is referring to things in Israel’s and Judah’s pasts.
So very clear…”
Yep so Crystal clear that you don’t have a clue what is being talked about. As I have said before the number one thing Zeke gives us is the years of sin. OF course its referring to Judah’s past. Its the law in leviticus that is the prophecy that it would be multiplied by 7.
As for the utter nonsense that Ezekiel 4 is not a prophecy at all. Whats this?
Ezekiel 4:13 (KJV)
13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
reminiscing about the good old days? Or talking about the future?
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So Mike, let’s get this straight: not a single person over some 80 generations “worked out” the “incredibly clear” prophecy… yet, miraculously, people (like yourself) did after some events occurred which they thought marked its fulfillment.
You know, i really have to wonder why this stuff isn’t taught in real universities…
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“So Mike, let’s get this straight: not a single person over some 80 generations “worked out” the “incredibly clear” prophecy…”
Lets get this straight instead. All I ever see you post is nonsense and noise. No facts whatsoever, NO?
Then present your evidence that not a single person over 80 generations worked out this calculation or I tell you what – at the very least tell us how many hours you have spent looking up if anyone had.
Cause we all know you haven’t done a lick of research to make that claim and if your next post is to say you did then we have yet another liar in this thread
Me? i don’t know but I do know that you don’t know squat.
Prove me wrong without cracking your computer screen with a growing nose 🙂
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Mike , how do you feel about fulfilled prophesies in the Quran ? Islam claims at least 14 and none of them require a calculator.
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“Mike , how do you feel about fulfilled prophesies in the Quran ? Islam claims at least 14 and none of them require a calculator.”
I think its good for you if you still don’t own one. At least until you can drive into town to buy one
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I have owned a Quran for approximately 5 years. My question was simple. Why can’t you just answer it instead of your usual dancing ?
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I bought mine at Barnes and Nobel. It’s The Qur’an (Text, Translation and Commentary)
By Abdullah Yusuf Ali
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Nostradamus had many fulfilled prophesies too. So what makes the bible’s prophesies any more special ?
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Oh and don’t forget fulfilled prophesies of Joseph Smith.
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” Why can’t you just answer ”
isn’ that obvious? Because we have had several discussions in which you have demonstrated to me you are a joke. I answer several of your comrades so if you can demonstrate you offer more than they I can change my stance on that. Fair shot
Can you?
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“Nostradamus had many fulfilled prophesies too. So what makes the bible’s prophesies any more special ?”
and even if that were the case why would that make the Bible’s false? See? no demonstration of basic logic. You failed and my assessment was right
have a great day 🙂
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I already have. You’re the joke, not me. I asked you your personal opinion on how you feel about fulfilled prophesies in the Quran.
There is no right or wrong answer here , Mike. You’re not going to answer a question you feel you haven’t had any power in framing.
Just more hand waving from you. I get it and everyone here gets it.
I also asked you what makes bible prophesies any more special than fulfilled prophesies of Nostradamus, the Quran, or Joseph Smith ? This is also a valid question which you would rather berate me than answer the question.
It’s OK. I would expect nothing less from you.
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“and even if that were the case why would that make the Bible’s false? ”
In this scenario I’m not saying the Bible’s is false. I’m asking you what makes them any more special or different than fulfilled prophesies of Joseph Smith, Nostradamus, or the Quran ?
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” you would rather berate me”
oh the irony. the hypocrisy the sheer duplicitous audacity of it all!
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Keep standing behind the curtain , Mike.
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Mike, I’m afraid your information about 538 BCE didn’t actually change anything.
Cyrus took Babylon in 539 BCE. During his first year, he let the Jews go back. A number of sources say that was in 538 BCE, and I’m sure that’s true. That’s still easily within his first year, especially if he took Babylon toward the end of 539 BCE. But the problem you’re running into is that you’re still wanting to add another year on top of that, and it’s because you’re conflating Babylon’s fall with Cyrus’s decree concerning the Jews.
Here’s the distinction — 538 does not apply to when Cyrus took Babylon, but when he issued the decree. In other words, nothing changes. You don’t get to add another year just because you need it. You’re still short.
And there are still two other issues. First, you don’t get to disregard the separation of years that Ezekiel gives. There’s a very specific reason why he breaks them up in to 390 (or 150) and 40. That may be inconvenient for you, but it’s still an issue. Secondly, you still seem to miss the point about the 360-day years. If you’re right that Ezekiel is speaking about 360-day years, then those have to be recalibrated right at the beginning. Removing 70 of them first changes the numbers significantly, but it’s also inconsistent. Ezekiel either meant years the way we always think of them (which is what I think), or he meant 360-day years. And if it’s the latter, as you maintain, then that has be dealt with right at the beginning.
Your current explanation has Ezekiel using both configurations: 365.25 days for the first 70, and 360 days for the rest. But there’s nothing in the text to make us think we should make that distinction. In fact, there’s nothing in the text that even mentions the number 70. It makes no sense to use both calculations — it’s either one or the other.
If we go with 365.25-day years (but keep everything else the same), then the prophecy would point to the year 1983.
If we go with 360-day years, then the prophecy would point to the year 1941 or 1942.
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Mike, this is a problem too:
Here’s the passage in question (Daniel 9:24, KJV):
It’s true that “determined” here literally means “cut off,” but a number of commentaries take this to mean “set aside” by God. The problem for the way you’re using it is that it doesn’t say this about 70 years, but 70 weeks of years. If you’re right that “determined” means “subtracted,” then you’d have to subtract 490 years from Ezekiel’s numbers, which would have him going back in time.
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“Mike, I’m afraid your information about 538 BCE didn’t actually change anything.”
ROFL… This was worth the dialogue. To see you caught in your own duplicity. No Nate I am afraid you are fudging. I was only using your very own logic. You said this to me only a few hours ago
“Ezra 1:1 is clear that Cyrus gave his decree in his 1st year, which was 539 BCE. Even if we give an extra year, just in case, that puts us at 68 years, not 70.”-Nate
The decree was not given in 539 but 538. Now that your numbers have been shown wrong you wish to pull back what you previously allowed
” Even if we give an extra year, just in case,”
and why? well because that would give 69 years and a 70 360 day year which works really well bu t you don’t like it now . Thats duplicitous any way you cut it
Take a bow
“and it’s because you’re conflating Babylon’s fall with Cyrus’s decree concerning the Jews.”
I don’t know what you are trying to pull Nate but Don’t start with more of your lying. I said nothing about Babylon’s fall and neither did that link. If you are trying to convince your flock you are correcting me on something you can stop it right now.
“Here’s the distinction — 538 does not apply to when Cyrus took Babylon, but when he issued the decree”
Sigh do tell Nate do tell. thats what the link I gave you said. Do you even read things?
” First, you don’t get to disregard the separation of years that Ezekiel gives. There’s a very specific reason why he breaks them up in to 390 (or 150) and 40. That may be inconvenient
for you, but it’s still an issue”
Sorry it you that don’t get to beg. there is absolutely no issue whatsoever. the passage is clear and unambiguous there are 390 days he lies on one side and then
Ezekiel 4:6 (KJV)
6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
what part of “when thou has accomplished” don’t you get? You are being silly trying desperately to hold on to your beloved teacher Till’s utter nonsense. How many days is ZEke out there? well its 390 days and then when that is finished its 40 days. thats 430 days each day for a year not some days counting for both. Sorry You don’t get to beg and twist the passage to get what you want. It doesn’t work like that. No fudging.
“Secondly, you still seem to miss the point about the 360-day years. If you’re right that Ezekiel is speaking about 360-day years, then those have to be recalibrated right at the beginning.”
recalibrated to what? LOL WOW – its YOU that still don’t and seemingly can’t get it. When you subtract 50 gallons from 100 gallon you do not need to “recalibrate” they are in the same base nate. basic concept. So when a 360 day year is subtracted from a 360 day year there is no recalibration. Ezek IS a prophecy despite your nonsense that it was not one so the numbers are all in the same base 360 days. 70 360 day years subtracted from 430 360 day years. Goodness I don’t know how to break it down any simpler for you.The only time the actual day count has to be used (by multiplying by 360 to get the days) is when its to be factored into our 365.25 day calendar.
“Your current explanation has Ezekiel using both configurations: 365.25 days for the first 70, and 360 days for the rest.”
No it doesn’t. You as usual do not know what you are talking about. I even broke it down for you into 360 days in my last post to you. At this point I don’t know whether what I am saying is just flying over your head or if you are hoping repeating the same claim over and over will help you save your dead points
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“It’s true that “determined” here literally means “cut off,” but a number of commentaries take this to mean “set aside” by God. The problem for the way you’re using it is that it doesn’t say this about 70 years, but 70 weeks of years. If you’re right that “determined” means “subtracted,” then you’d have to subtract 490 years from Ezekiel’s numbers, which would have him going back in time.”
Nate don’t be silly. If you cut off the 70 times 7 from the entire period of time to be multiplied by 7 Its the same as subtracting the 70 and not multiplying by seven. there is no problem the way I am using it. Since Daniel has been praying for forgiveness God tells him the 70 instead of being multiplied in punishment will be redemptive in another action of God. Its good you finally looked up the hebrew though.
Pretty amazing you have all this time to restate the same things over, look up the hebrew ,double check dates but still not a peep about what actually is the main thing thing in Ezekiel
what happens to the city of Jerusalem.
Why would that be nate? the dates fixing the 1967 six day war too solid?
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Mike, by all means, if you know a single person who named the dates “before” they arrived then present this evidence….
I’ll be waiting….
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“Mike, by all means, if you know a single person who named the dates “before” they arrived then present this evidence….”
No sonny boy. You are not in prep school now. Your usual laziness will not suffice. You made the statement
“not a single person over some 80 generations “worked out” the “incredibly clear” prophecy…”
as an absolute statement of fact. So its time to put on your big boy pants and back it up with some data or proof of the exhaustive research you did.
Run away from that then your secret is out (not that it was much of one to begin with mind you)
You would have proven you are a wannabe that doesn’t research anything, makes statements off the top of your head and can be safely unceremoniously ignored in any adult conversation
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